Wisner's Obsolete Winchester, Remington, Marlin, Stevens, Savage, gun parts
Wisner's Inc. is a full time machine shop specializing in the manufacture of obsolete firearm parts. We are probably the largest MANUFACTURER of Obsolete Firearm Parts in the WORLD.
The parts you see on these pages are what we
manufacture & have for sale, we do not cannibalize old guns. What
you see here is what we have. This website is the most current
Our goal is to manufacture a high quality product & maintain a fairly complete inventory of the parts listed in our catalog, however sometimes a delay may occur, depending on previous orders, steel deliveries, equipment repairs & personnel health. These parts are made from copying original parts, or from the 10,000 + dimensional drawings taken from guns that were torn down in our facility over the last 35 years. We build parts for many of the major parts distributors. New items are added from time to time. These new parts will be added to this listing as needed. Again, this website's online catalog will be the most current listing we have.
Our machine shop consists of, three vertical milling machines with power feed & DRO. A Bridgeport CNC vertical mill was purchased in late 1997, and is now being used daily. Another similar Bridgeport CNC was added in early Dec 2002. Both are CNC's are equipped with a 4th axis for rotary milling. Five horizontal milling machines are also used. We have two tool room lathes, a Logan 11x24 and a Jet 13x40. In the spring of 2000 we purchased a Omni-Turn CNC lathe, this is being for making screws, firing pins, magazine plugs and anything up to 1" in diameter. A 3 1/2 ton kick press and five punch presses from 2 to 35 ton are used on our stamping line. A chop saw and heliarc welder are also used. The surface finishing department has access both a horizontal & vertical band saws, two band sanders, a surface grinder, & 2, tool & cutter grinders. A glass beader and two buffers round out that department. A gang drill, drill presses are used on our drilling line. A heat treat oven and black oxide finishing round out our shop.
This business was originally started part time in 1959 & was owned and operated by LeeRoy & Nancy Wisner. As of October 1, 2003 the son Jim & his wife Jennifer took the business over when Nancy retired in the fall of 2003. LeeRoy was a machinist/gunsmith by trade for over 40 years. Nancy may still help out occasionally in the office and is quite knowledgeable on gun parts. Jennifer ran their office before, so she understands a lot, but is still learning some aspects of what fits what. We are currently updating our computer inventory system for a more enhanced tracking capability. However if your requirements are that you have to talk to Jim, he is usually only available to a phone only from 1:00pm to 3:00pm Mon-Thur Pacific Time at 360-748-4590.
The machine shop is run by Jim doing the R&D, most all of the fixture making, much of the set up & machining. Scott the full time machinist is assisting them in production with about 3 years of experience with the firm.
Our sales office is open from 9am to 3pm Mon. thru Thur., Pacific Time, except all major holidays and June 14 to July 8, November 22 to December 2, December 20 to January 6 for vacations & inventory. The office and shop both are computer equipped to be better able to track the inventory.
Many of the parts we manufacture are at times a better product than the original factory part. This comes about because of newer & better machining capabilities & the fact that we can many times re-engineer around known defects that have occurred in the original parts. Examples are the Remington 58 early bolt slide. For this we have utilized the newer 1100 operating handle retention system. Another is the Weatherby XXII 22 semi-auto late style magazine latch. The original was a stamped out part. It however developed stress & cracked in some of the many bends. Our part is machined from a solid bar stock of a hard enough material that it does not need to be heat-treated. Another is the extractor collar for the Winchester pre 64 model 70. The original was made from a stamped out bent sheet metal. After much use /abuse the lips could get deformed to where it would not hold the extractor securely. Our part is is CNC machined from a sold bar stock to a closer tolerance. Our latest is a replacement loading platform for the Remington 580. This part was made of plastic in which was inserted the metal stamped ejector, all held together by a sheet metal screw in a hole in the bottom of the receiver. Our new part is a combination of the 2 parts all machined from metal.
Some of the original parts were "sintered" which meant that fine metal powder was highly compressed in a mould & then heat-treated to form a precise "finished" part. It however had no "grain strength" so it can then be subject to breakage if stressed. We have re-engineered many of these parts to be made to handle stress better.
We have redeveloped the process of making "Vee" springs much the same way they were originally over 100 years ago, only by using newer machinery & heat-treating processes.
The factories do not supply any blueprints for any of their parts. I suppose the main reason is for product liability reasons, but also that many of the old factories are no longer in existence, or the records are lost by fire or otherwise. Therefore, our part dimensions are taken from original parts from torn down sample guns. Occasionally we find that on some of the OLD guns that there is a surprise, in that an early gun's internal design was changed & since sketchy or no illustrated list exist, we find a gun part that is not what we suspected. We do try to get more than one original part to check tolerances before be startup. Since this would involve a LARGE collection of firearms, we sometimes borrow guns from friends or collectors & have been known to purchase many sample parts off eBay.
In 1990, Wisners purchased some Savage factory magazine tooling, and it is used in our facility to produce the model 340 magazines in 222, 223, & 30-30. We also own other Savage tooling for their obsolete models 15, 67, & 311. In mid 1994 we purchased all of Walter Lodewick's tooling for Winchester models 90, 06, 61, 62, 63, 69A, 94, and his tooling for Remington models 11, 12, & 121. These tooling purchases expanded our coverage and complimented the extensive dies and tooling that we have made in our machine shop. In 1996 we purchased the factory original tooling from Winchester for the model 88 &100 rifle magazines. In the fall of 1997 we purchased all the inventory and tooling from our sons business, Precise Metalsmithing, for all the Winchester pre 64 model 70 parts. Now he gets it back by buying us out.
Late September 2003 we were informed by the original Winchester vendor of the Winchester 88/100 magazines that since they were in large government contracts, the lead time to stamp out more of our magazines would be about 6 months. This not being practical for us, we have taken actual possession of the tooling & are now having these magazines blanked out, formed & spot welded in Portland Oregon, with product coming to us mid January 2004. This also allows us to work more closely with the vendor. We then do the final machining, black oxiding & final assembly in house. We have improved these magazines in that we have changed the steel to a slightly harder grade, while still being soft enough to be formed, making the magazines less likely to be deformed or damaged. Since original Winchester magazine springs are not available anymore, LeeRoy designed a new spring that can also be used in most bolt action center-fire rifles.
We are currently in the process of tooling up for most all the Winchester pre 64 model 94 parts, and many model 97 parts. Also it seems that the older Marlin guns are now being restored more than before & we are trying to add to this area as well. LeeRoy has CAD drawn all the actual parts for the Marlin lever action 22 RF rifles in models 1891, 1892, 97, 39, & 39A. He has also put these individual parts drawings together forming exploded views drawings for each of these models with factory part numbers, that is not available anywhere else.
When we make a new run of parts, most of the time, we try to make enough for a 4 year supply.
Jim grew up in a gunshop, making his first gunstock for a German 22 single shot, from scratch at the age of 12. He later did all the R&D and prototype work on the working model of Kimber's Big Game Rifle, & did all the metalwork their first 5 working guns. He has been known as the Winchester pre-64 model 70 gunsmith expert. He is a member of the American Custom Gunmakers Guild & held a seat on their board of directors until spring of 2004. He along with 2 other craftsmen have produced the 2006 guild gun of the year, being a Winchester pre 64 model 70 in 30-06 caliber in recognition of the 100th year of the 30-06. http://www.acgg.org/project21.html
If you think our prices are too high, we do offer a cheaper priced part
you for showing interest in our product, we hope that we can be of some help.
We are a mail order only business, and
not open to the public.
Last modified 2013